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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:19 pm 
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What are your views on the possibility of extended life span via technology?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfTqXL0d ... r_embedded


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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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I'm all for it, but those blokes creep me out. :shock:

At the same time, do wonder if keeping people alive considering the state of the world is such a great idea. You also know the rich and powerful will be getting it first, and who needs those bastards around?

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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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What's creepy about them?

Also, I would want to attempt to live as long as possible.


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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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That bloke has an amazing beard.

Computer-wise, I think we already have the capability of creating enough off-line storage for a human brain, as for live versions it all depends on what pops up in the near future technology wise, we're nearing the physics limits for what we currently use. That's why they keep on throwing more cores at processors instead of making them faster.


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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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Really, if you could store a human brain in a humanized robot, why wouldn't you want to? Although personally, I'm all for cloning my own body, upgrading my new body with technological parts ala androids, and then placing my stored memory and conciousness into the new body, then, whenever my body begins to detiorate just outfit my mechancial core onto a new lifesystem version of myself. Talk about evolution in action.


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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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My biggest problem is that, it would all have to be made by humans and we all know that anything made by humans always breaks. Even the most expensive precision built triple redundancy system can still fall on it's arse. :lol:


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Yeah it's not exactly reassuring.
Immortality, made by mortals.

Also makes me think of Sealba 2021, and the cyborg debate. :lol:

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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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See, sure there would be some casualties, systems that fail, etc etc. But compared to the number of people that die every day and all of their knowldege and life just fades away, isn't that a calculable risk? I mean, imagine if we could have had einsteins spirit perserved. What about Stephen Hawkings as his own body falls to decay with his brilliant mind trapped inside?


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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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I just need to initiate the third impact and kick off the human instrumentallity project :)

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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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You want to be a tool? 8)


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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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Some might argue that point ;)

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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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Little late for wanting to be, ain't it?


*huggles project* I'm just kidding, hun, you're not a tool, you're like a mysterious, otaku teddybear.

Oh and actually, I dunno if that's really that far from what I was proposing, though not with the sole intent to destroy other people of course. I don't want to advance the human race just so it can keep killing.


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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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kodama wrote:
as for live versions it all depends on what pops up in the near future technology wise


I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but this component, The Memristor, looks like it will make active brain simulation very plausable. (long IEEE article)

Immortality, not for me please.

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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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ophelia wrote:
Really, if you could store a human brain in a humanized robot, why wouldn't you want to? Although personally, I'm all for cloning my own body, upgrading my new body with technological parts ala androids, and then placing my stored memory and conciousness into the new body, then, whenever my body begins to detiorate just outfit my mechancial core onto a new lifesystem version of myself. Talk about evolution in action.


But this assumes the clone is so brainless and/or would be willing to have her identity to be subsumed. This also assumes that the clone has no rights whatsoever. Shouldn't she have a say on what should/shouldn't be done to her body?

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 Post subject: Transhumanism and immortality
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Here's the shorter version for dummies like me. :)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327151.600-memristor-minds-the-future-of-artificial-intelligence.html


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