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#1 Post by kodama » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:55 pm

Batman always has to win?

I don't get it, speaking from the standpoint of geek who's never had that particular discussion and is not a great follower of comics.

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#2 Post by Project-2501 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:54 pm

Good always has to win. Stories always have to go against real life.
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#3 Post by CastorTroy81 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:02 am

In what context are we talking? Like is there any particular instance?

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#4 Post by kodama » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:11 am

Nerd argument context.

Such as Batman v Superman. To me, it's obvious Superman would win.

The cartoon does depict the attitude that I don't understand. :)

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#5 Post by CastorTroy81 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:16 am

Ah but all batman needs is a bit of kryptonite. I know I saw a strip somewhere of superman killing batman by punching a hole through him but I can't find it now.

Sure Bats was beaten, just he keeps bouncing back. He was badly beaten, back broken I believe, at the hands of Bane in the Knightfall storyline.

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#6 Post by Nabeshin » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:22 am

He doesnt always win. He couldn't save Jason Todd from being murdered by the Joker/DC readership.

kodama wrote:Nerd argument context.

Such as Batman v Superman. To me, it's obvious Superman would win.


Yeah that would be the case it's just that the thing is with Batman, is that he would be prepared for that eventuality. Hence like CT said, he would already have the kryptonite ready in case Superman ever decided to fight him. Batman just has the smarts to force Superman to fight on his own terms. He knows nearly everyone's weakness' (including the heros, just in case).
Also when Batman does get beaten or fooled, he just refuses to give up and wins in the end.

Plus DC would be bloody crazy if they every killed off Batman for reals. Not that death means anything in most comics anyway.
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#7 Post by CastorTroy81 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:30 am

What brought this up anyway?
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#8 Post by Old Git » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:30 pm

Think you have to take into account that Batman is borderline psychotic. The other heroes tend to be dogooders.
Take that, his intelligence and the fact that, never relying on powers, he doesn't lack if his weakness is found out - like the others - then it makes more sense.

Plus he's just damn cool! :twisted:

Funnily enough, I'm reading the Dark Knight Returns right now. Very glad to say it's as good as I've heard. Not reached that particular showdown yet.
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#9 Post by CastorTroy81 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:06 pm

Still have to read dark Knight Returns. i'm just reading the current 'Batman' and 'Batman and Robin' series
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#10 Post by Nabeshin » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:09 pm

Old Git wrote:Think you have to take into account that Batman is borderline psychotic. The other heroes tend to be dogooders.
Take that, his intelligence and the fact that, never relying on powers, he doesn't lack if his weakness is found out - like the others - then it makes more sense..

This.

Although I have to say that Miller does amp up the psychotic part.
The Dark Knight Returns is good for that but you should check out Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum. Bruce has got some issues.

Still haven't read the current series yet, waiting impatiently on the trades. :(
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#11 Post by CastorTroy81 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:23 pm

Simply put: He's the Goddamn Batman!

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#12 Post by kodama » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:50 pm

Ah, to me he is just Batman, some guy in a funny costume.

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