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#16 Post by kodama » Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:56 pm

Crucifer wrote:In fact, many pirates would probably have been quite civilized. Queen Elizabeth the first had a fleet of pirate vessels that had to give 90% or so of their spoil to her, and they could keep the rest.


Not quite, the word you're looking for is Privateer. Essentially a licensed pirate :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privateer

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#17 Post by MJG1977 » Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:17 pm

I'm the posh Pirate. Don't you know.:Arr:
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#18 Post by Old Git » Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:28 am

That's it, Crucifer! Knew it was a movie and down to one person, just assumed it was Teach, what with him being all Bristol like. :lol:

Well, one man's privateer is another man's pirate. :twisted:

I think the main difference was if you robbed and attacked when at war with the opposition, it was legal. When the war was over, you kept doing it, only then you were a very naughty boy. :Arr:

Also they could be quite proffesional and democratic. Everyone had shares dished out and captains could be voted out if they didn't keep their crew happy.
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#19 Post by Crucifer » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:29 pm

I think the main difference was if you robbed and attacked when at war with the opposition, it was legal. When the war was over, you kept doing it, only then you were a very naughty boy.


I think it was more "If we do it, it's legal. If they do it, it's not..."

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#20 Post by Nabeshin » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:54 pm

That's exactly what it was. A good example would be Frances Drake. He was a hero in Elizabethan England but was in reality he was a pirate who raided Spanish ships.
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#21 Post by kodama » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:55 pm

It all depends on which side you were on. :D

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#22 Post by Nabeshin » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:57 pm

True enough.
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#23 Post by Old Git » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:47 pm

No, that's not it. Like Mr K pointed out, if at war then you were allowed - you would even have a contract saying that you were raiding on behalf of your government, and you raided the enemy, no one else.

It was a fine line walked between piracy and privateering, but there was a line.
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#24 Post by fillet » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:46 am

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#25 Post by Nabeshin » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:16 am

Old Git wrote:No, that's not it. Like Mr K pointed out, if at war then you were allowed - you would even have a contract saying that you were raiding on behalf of your government, and you raided the enemy, no one else.

It was a fine line walked between piracy and privateering, but there was a line.


I concede that legally there was a difference between the two, but in real life the only real difference between piracy and privateering was the commission got from a government. I'm sure that anyone who suffered at the hands of such people wouldn't have cared for the distinction.
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#26 Post by Old Git » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:39 pm

Ah, it's their own fault for sailing on the sea, arrrrgh! :Arr:
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